Here's how the conversation goes....
m (9:17:12 PM): i dont really like it tbh
f (9:17:16 PM): y
m (9:17:34 PM): it looks like a deformed bird with a huge eye
m (9:18:00 PM): i dont think it would compliment your looks
m (9:19:05 PM): i mean get it if you want, but i think you could find something a lot better
f (9:19:39 PM): lol didnt you say it was cool like a couple days ago
f (9:19:42 PM): when i sent it to you
m (9:19:47 PM): i said it was crazy
f (9:21:01 PM): you said it before :\
m (9:21:10 PM): nah, i didnt
m (9:22:37 PM): im almost certain you did..
m (9:22:58 PM): well i can tell you right now that i didnt like it at all the moment i saw it and i hoped that you weren't really getting it
m (9:23:22 PM): but now that you're calling the tattoo guy and shit i felt like i'd better say something b4 u get a weird tattoo that ur gonna have to have forever
m (9:25:12 PM): u dont have to take my advice, but i think you'd be better off if you got something that looks nice rather than a disturbing tattoo.
f (9:25:27 PM): i dont think its disturbing
m (9:25:42 PM): like i said, u dont have to take my advice
f (9:27:01 PM): i dont think im going to
ATTENTION (9:29:08 PM): Direct IM session disconnected. What is this?
f is available (9:29:42 PM)
f (9:29:41 PM): like i give a shit if people think its disturbing or weird
m (9:30:25 PM): im not going to argue with u about it, i just dont like it
f (9:31:09 PM): this ruined my mood
m (9:31:56 PM): im sorry about your mood, but i felt like i had to say something since they're permanent
f (9:32:05 PM): well i was happy with it
f (9:32:07 PM): obviously
f (9:32:38 PM): its not like im getting something tattooed on my forehead or some weird shit like that
m (9:33:55 PM): i dont know what you want me to say
f (9:35:44 PM): i dont really give a shit anymore
f is available (10:09:05 PM)
m (10:09:21 PM): You don't have to ignore me just bc I said I don't like the tattoo you want.
f (10:09:35 PM): im not
f (10:09:49 PM): and its not that its a problem you dont like it, it just seemed rude
m (10:10:51 PM): Idk why it seems rude, I'm just saying my opinion about something that's obviously important to me.. the way my gf will look for the rest of her life.
f (10:11:25 PM): i think ill look fine
m (10:11:36 PM): I expected you to put a little more value into my opinion than you did.
m (10:12:00 PM): I mean, I know it's not my skin, but you are my girlfriend.
m (10:12:30 PM): I thought you liked to look good for me?
f (10:12:57 PM): thats true, but im getting this for myself
m (10:13:08 PM): lol okay
f (10:13:53 PM): it made me mad because before you said you thought it was cool, and you did because it was when carly was over and i showed her and you came up and said whatre you looking at and i said its what i want to get for a tattoo or some shit like that
f (10:14:34 PM): and its just frustrating to know that in reality, you didnt like it, and you wait until im all excited about it and ready to set up an appt to get it done to say you think it looks like a disformed weird disturbing bird
m (10:14:47 PM): I only said that then because I knew you would react this way.
m (10:15:02 PM): And I didn't think it was the time or place for this type of discussion.
f (10:15:15 PM): if you just said "i dont really like it" that would have been fine
m (10:15:16 PM): Also, I was kind of hoping you'd find a better one in the mean time, or that you'd just decide to get something else.
m (10:15:29 PM): I didn't want to disappoint you or hurt your feelings, xxxxxx.
f (10:15:33 PM): well
f (10:15:34 PM): you did
f (10:15:34 PM): so
f (10:15:41 PM): i dont know
m (10:16:01 PM): Well today you were getting serious about getting it, so I either had to give you my opinion now or keep it inside forever.
m (10:16:20 PM): I mean, would you rather I have never mentioned it and always just disliked it?
f (10:16:41 PM): i would have rather youve said something before
m (10:17:04 PM): Well look at how you reacted.
f (10:17:46 PM): because it was right after i asked the guy when we could set up a date after its a lot cheaper than i thought itd be so i knew for sure i would get it because my mom said she didnt really want to spend like $300
m (10:18:20 PM): Well, I'm sorry, but I really didn't think you were going to get it. I mean you were going to get a tattoo this summer but it didn't happen then, so I just kind of thought it was going to blow over.
m (10:18:25 PM): It's not like you paid him any money.
m (10:18:39 PM): Tattoo people are used to customers changing their minds.
f (10:19:18 PM): i know but i have been worrying about this being too expensive for what my mom would like
m (10:20:35 PM): Well, the price is another matter entirely.
f (10:21:05 PM): correct, but it added to the excitement because i knew it was a cheaper price and i can get this
f (10:21:44 PM): well she said she didnt want me to get something that was like 300
m (10:21:59 PM): If you don't get this tattoo, I will give you 200 more dollars.
m (10:22:04 PM): Then you can get another tattoo.
m (10:22:28 PM): And that'll be what I give you for xmas instead of what i was going to.
f (10:22:32 PM): are you seriously bribing me?
f (10:22:37 PM): you know
f (10:22:39 PM): you can just be happy
m (10:22:44 PM): I'm just saying if ur worried about the price.
f (10:23:33 PM): are you worried that people are going to think you have a fucked up girlfriend
m (10:24:05 PM): No, but I am worried that other people will think it's weird and that they won't react like you hoped.
f (10:24:12 PM): michael
m (10:24:13 PM): I mean i got a tattoo recently and a lot of people don't really go for it.
f (10:24:14 PM): i do not care
f (10:24:17 PM): what people think of me
m (10:24:25 PM): Okay i understand you're such a rebel and all that
f (10:24:29 PM): im not a rebel
m (10:24:33 PM): Well anyway
f (10:25:06 PM): im getting something that I want
f (10:25:06 PM): for me
f (10:25:09 PM): not for anyone else
f (10:25:16 PM): if people think im weird or disturbing then fuck them
f (10:25:20 PM): why should i give them the time of day
m (10:25:25 PM): Well what about what I think?
m (10:25:35 PM): Can't you just get a tattoo that we both like?
m (10:25:52 PM): I mean.. it's going to be there forever.
m (10:26:18 PM): And it's not like this particular picture was drawn by your dead great grandmother.. why such an attachment to this one design?
f (10:26:27 PM): because i like it
m (10:26:36 PM): So, you don't care about my opinion?
f (10:26:40 PM): its the whole peacock idea but its abstract, which is something i have been attracted to
f (10:27:24 PM): this is something that I want
f (10:27:32 PM): I care about your opinion but this is for me
m (10:27:43 PM): Okay, whatever.
f (10:28:32 PM): I was iffy with the fact that you wanted a devil tattoo but i didnt say shit because i knew it was what you wanted and i knew you liked it
f (10:28:33 PM): and guess what
f (10:28:37 PM): it turns out it was a cool tattoo
f (10:28:45 PM): and it turns out i liked it
m (10:28:56 PM): Well, how about this
m (10:29:01 PM): I don't like that tattoo.
m (10:29:05 PM): I'm telling you now.
f(10:30:06 PM): okay
f (10:30:13 PM): cool
f (10:32:41 PM): i dont really know what youre expecting me to do about it
m (10:33:04 PM): I want you to not get it.
m (10:33:17 PM): I mean.. I'm telling you i dont like it, and if you get it, that's just telling me that u dont really care
f(10:33:25 PM): wtf are you talking about
m (10:33:32 PM): and not only that, im gonna have to be reminded that you dont care every single day when i see it
f (10:33:39 PM): are you joking
f (10:33:41 PM): right now
m (10:34:10 PM): Well the "I'm doing this for me" attitude is obviously selfish.
f (10:34:16 PM): BECAUSE ITS ON MY BODY
f (10:34:17 PM): FOREVER
m (10:34:17 PM): I'm not asking u to not get a tattoo.
m (10:34:22 PM): I'm not asking u to not get a peacock.
f (10:34:25 PM): OF COURSE ITS A SELFISH DECISION
m (10:34:36 PM): WHAT ABOUT YOUR BOYFRIEND WHO IS GOING TO BE WITH YOU FOREVER
f (10:34:59 PM): my boyfriend who wants to be with me forever should just be happy for me
f (10:35:25 PM): its okay if you dont like it but knowing that its making me happy should be enough satisfaction for you
f (10:35:45 PM): and i think its selfish of you to try and talk me into getting something else because you dont like it
m (10:36:37 PM): Whatever, xxxxxx.
f (10:36:38 PM): i mean
f (10:36:44 PM): if i asked you to get a different tattoo
f (10:36:51 PM): you would have been like "fuck off this is what I want"
f (10:37:18 PM): and you cant even deny that
m (10:38:04 PM): No, I would listen to you.
f (10:38:15 PM): no you wouldnt have
m (10:38:17 PM): When i said i was gonna get an anime angel, and you said not to, i decided not to.
f (10:38:49 PM): if you got it i wouldnt have been like "well you obviously dont care about me"
f (10:38:57 PM): id probably end up liking it anyways
m (10:39:26 PM): I'm saying you don't care enough about my opinion to compromise.
m (10:39:37 PM): I'm not saying you don't care about me at all.
f (10:41:42 PM): how can you even say i dont care about your opinion
m (10:42:04 PM): Because I said I don't like it and you don't care enough to change your mind at all.
f (10:42:14 PM): because this shit is permanent
f (10:42:25 PM): this is what I want
m (10:42:28 PM): That's the only reason I'm concerned about it at all.
m (10:42:31 PM): It's permanent.
f (10:42:35 PM): yeah
f (10:42:41 PM): and notice me and you are into completely different shit
f (10:42:47 PM): i dont change the music i listen to because you dont like it
m (10:42:56 PM): I wouldn't ask you to.
m (10:43:26 PM): But I don't have to listen to the same disliked song every time i see you, and every time we make love, either.
m (10:43:44 PM): Whereas the tattoo will always be there.
f (10:44:32 PM): you are being ridiculous
f (10:44:34 PM): i hope youre kidding
m (10:44:54 PM): Alright, xxxxxxxx.
m (10:44:57 PM): Get the tattoo.
f (10:45:38 PM): honestly this is my decision, i should be able to do whatever i want to mine own body, im not changing it for anyone because its what I want.
m (10:45:45 PM): Okay, fine.
m (10:45:50 PM): Don't change your opinion for me.
f(10:46:25 PM): are you trying to guilt trip me
m (10:46:28 PM): Nope.
f (10:47:19 PM): okay because thats what it seems like
f (10:48:23 PM): this is so stupid
m (10:50:48 PM): It is, really.
f (10:52:35 PM): this is getting no where
f (10:53:29 PM): i would just like to know why you would even try to argue about this
m (10:53:47 PM): xxxxxx, I love you.
m (10:53:54 PM): I want to like every little thing about you.
m (10:54:17 PM): I just don't like the design.
m (10:54:39 PM): So, if you get it, then I won't like your tattoo. And then there's something I don't like about you.
f (10:54:39 PM): like it because it makes me happy
m (10:55:02 PM): Why can't you just find another?
f (10:55:09 PM): because i have my heart set on this one
m (10:55:25 PM): You had your heart set on others before.
f (10:56:50 PM): and this is like the other ones, but its abstract, which i like, and i feel like it would be a great tattoo
f (10:57:02 PM): and i remember you saying "i dont like it, but you can do what you want"
f (10:57:08 PM): you are now making this all about you.
f (10:57:27 PM): its not about you its about a fucking tattoo im getting on my body. its not like a giant fucking penis or some shit
f (10:58:15 PM): its something i like and its something i am very happy to get and that alone should make you happy
m (10:59:34 PM): I don't like it, and you can do what you want.
f (10:59:54 PM): then why are you making a big deal about it
m (11:02:30 PM): Because it's forever.
f (11:04:22 PM): okay so why would you want me to get something that wouldnt make me happy as this
m (11:04:45 PM): I'm sure something else would make you happy.
m (11:05:07 PM): Since you've been considering a tattoo, you've been very excited about each new one you find.
f (11:05:28 PM): okay do you know how much time ive spent looking at tattoos
m (11:05:39 PM): If you want to get it, then get it.
f (11:05:40 PM): obviously you dont
f (11:05:47 PM): i know but stop making it all about you
m (11:05:51 PM): I'm not.
f (11:05:53 PM): yes you are
m (11:05:55 PM): I'm just saying I don't like it.
m (11:06:08 PM): So if you want to get a tattoo that you know I don't like, then get it.
f (11:06:18 PM): saying you dont like it, and saying everytime you look at it youre going to think i dont care etc etc
f (11:06:23 PM): what the hell kind of shit is that to say
m (11:06:36 PM): Obviously you don't care that I don't like it.
f (11:06:41 PM): i do care
m (11:06:46 PM): So change it!
f (11:06:58 PM): ....
m (11:07:14 PM): I can't force myself to think this thing looks good.
m (11:07:36 PM): But you -could- pick out a different design.
f (11:07:43 PM): but i -dont- want to
f (11:07:48 PM): i want this for me
f (11:07:53 PM): if i wanted it for anyone else i would have asked
m (11:08:05 PM): Just go ahead and get it.
f (11:08:40 PM): k
f (11:08:41 PM): i will
f (11:08:47 PM): and i will be more than happy doing it
f (11:10:58 PM): i dont want to hear anymore about this
m (11:11:24 PM): You won't.
f (11:11:38 PM): k
f (11:16:51 PM): anyways
m (11:32:46 PM): yea
f (11:43:14 PM): im going to bed
m (11:44:03 PM): ok
f (11:45:17 PM): talk to you later
m (11:45:24 PM): k
shannonomous (12:36:14 AM): what are you doing
shannonomous is available (12:36:17 AM)
m (12:36:22 AM): not much
shannonomous (12:36:43 AM): are you on 4chan
m (12:37:01 AM): yea y
shannonomous (12:37:35 AM): did you copy and paste our conversation?
ml (12:37:40 AM): onto 4chan?
shannonomous (12:37:48 AM): yes
shannonomous (12:37:53 AM): i got about 20 IMs
shannonomous (12:38:01 AM): are you posting about my tattoo?
m (12:40:18 AM): yea i posted a thread
shannonomous (12:40:25 AM): why would you do that?
shannonomous (12:40:29 AM): are you fucking stupid?
m (12:40:42 AM): No. I was just looking for some other opinions.
shannonomous (12:40:56 AM): so you post a fucking thread about dumping me??
shannonomous (12:41:00 AM): ON 4CHAN?
m (12:41:27 AM): I don't really want to dump you, but srsly, you are being so stubborn over this thing.
m (12:41:55 AM): You have liked a lot of tattoos before this.. I don't know why you can't just get one of those, or change this one. Maybe just take that stupid beak off.
shannonomous (12:42:26 AM): you are a fucking asshole. brb someone sent a link and i am reading the whole thread now
m (12:46:09 AM): Just to be clear, I don't -want- to really break up over this. You know I love you a lot.
shannonomous (12:46:14 AM): Is that so?
shannonomous (12:46:23 AM): you really do huh?
shannonomous (12:46:26 AM): you fucking prick
shannonomous (12:46:29 AM): i am so sick of your shit
m (12:46:35 AM): What shit?
m (12:46:39 AM): When did I ever give you shit?
shannonomous (12:47:05 AM): remember when you were going to dump me for that other girl, but then she found out about me?
m (12:47:27 AM): Let's not bring that up. You said you weren't going to hold that against me, and we were having a lot of problems at the time.
shannonomous (12:47:46 AM): yea well that shit just doesnt fade away in the memory ya know
shannonomous (12:47:57 AM): also when you said i was FUCKING FAT
m (12:48:05 AM): I never used those words.
shannonomous (12:49:11 AM): ARE YOU STILL FUCKING PASTING WHAT I TYPE I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU
m (12:48:14 AM): WTF I haven't said anything like that lately.
m (12:51:39 AM): Well, why not? It's all in there up to this point already.
m (12:51:51 AM): Why don't you just calm down and think about this.
m (12:51:58 AM): We don't have to do anything rash.
shannonomous (12:52:28 AM): rash???? what about dumping your gf over a fucking tattoo. thats fucking rash! omg i cannot even believe this is happening
m (12:52:42 AM): Well, what about just compromising? Why is that such a problem?
shannonomous (12:52:59 AM): its not that i just really have my heart set on this tattoo
m (12:53:32 AM): I know you like it a lot, but can't you change it at all?
shannonomous (12:53:51 AM): It's my fucking body, michael! this tattoo is for me, its not for you or for anybody else
shannonomous (12:54:10 AM): you know what? i should be the one dumping you, just like those people said on your stupid little thread
m (12:55:15 AM): well, as for that fat comment i made... STILL APPLIES BITCH
shannonomous (12:57:19 AM): fuck you, michael
shannonomous (12:57:22 AM): i cant belive you would do this
m (12:57:36 AM): You're the one who's doing it. I mean you could just get a different tattoo, but nooooo.
m (12:57:55 AM): I mean seriously why are you so attached to that tattoo?
shannonomous (12:58:02 AM): its not even about the tattoo now
shannonomous (12:58:10 AM): i cant believe you said all that stuff on 4chan
shannonomous (12:58:20 AM): and you made a thread that was just about breaking up with me
shannonomous (12:58:35 AM): r u really going to break up with me based on what people on some forum say
shannonomous (12:58:46 AM): after 15 months??
shannonomous (12:58:51 AM): after you moved all the way out here?
m (12:59:07 AM): It's not their opinions that matter so much as the way you have been acting about the whole thing.
m (12:59:19 AM): I mean i just dont like that design
m (12:59:22 AM): and you just dont care
shannonomous (12:59:37 AM): why should i care about you if you're going to dump me over some bullshit like that?
m (1:03:17 AM): It's not bullshit. If we're going to be together forever, we have to consider the other person's feelings.
shannonomous (1:03:29 AM): yea well this tattoo is on ME.
shannonomous (1:03:39 AM): i know you dont like it but you should consider my feelings and accept it
m (1:04:45 AM): I know. I think that's fine that you're getting a tat. Can't you change it just a little bit?
m (1:04:49 AM): I mean it's almost acceptable.
shannonomous (1:04:56 AM): almost acceptable huh
shannonomous (1:05:00 AM): is that the best i can get from you
shannonomous (1:05:07 AM): you are such a fucking douche
m (1:05:12 AM): Don't talk to me like that
m (1:05:28 AM): Just because you're angry about this thread thing doesn't give you the right to call names and treat me like that.
shannonomous (1:05:41 AM): ill treat you however i fucking want after what you did!
shannonomous (1:06:12 AM): and anyway
shannonomous (1:06:21 AM): theres something ive been meaning to tell you and this is a good chance
m (1:06:33 AM): Oh, shit, no..
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